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Went Hot: September 6, 2008 - 7:25 am
Posted By: Maing 89 days ago
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Category: SEO
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Went Hot: September 6, 2008 - 7:25 am
Posted By: Maing 89 days ago
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Category: SEO
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I completely agree here. Accessibility and Usability are not mentioned enough in the SEO community. I went on a little rant about it a few months ago in my Blogging Manifesto
I think SEOs should be Accessibility experts as well. It just makes too much sense.
We've had a forum at Cre8asiteforums on accessbility for years...seo and accessibilty discussed there. There are also several long time SEO's trained in usability and accessibility and working for clients along those lines. It may be a case of just needing to learn SEO first and then beginning to broaden out skillsets rather than ignoring accessibility.
I agree about it being common sense.. Accessibility makes good spidey food!
@Kim, thanks for the comment. I added link to cre8asiteforums accessibility section in the original thread.
Thanks Ann :) I'm sure Webnaughts will agree...any exposure to accessibility is more than welcomed!
I also totally agree.
Yes, this is a good topic but I think people that write about accessibility should actually have sites that PASS accessibility in the first place or even validate for that matter.
WebmasterWorld has had an Accessibility Forum for a couple years, too.
http://www.webmasterworld.com/accessibility_usability/
Thanks Ann for touching on the topic because, sadly, there are probably many for whom this is new stuff. Visiting creatasite or wmw and going through every forum and peeking at the top posts should be obligatory reading for everyone new to the industry.
I don't pretend to build strictly accessible websites, however at the very least, I try to keep as much noise down as possible for people with screen readers.
Looks like the truth got an edit and away went the link to reliable information on RNIB
Guess the facts aren't important.
Haha...strange that, Bill.
I do not have access to a screenreader because good ones cost over a $1,000. And, since the blind are getting a bit too demanding for my tastes, I am sure that the blind would find most of my sites non-accessible.
Nevertheless, I like to make sites that are accessible to NORMAL, if not strange, people. This post covers a number of accessibility issues, buts fails to even mention the FireFox / IE compatibilty problem. It provides enough good info to be Sphinn worthy, however.
@Jill - if nobody cares about the quality of the content, the accuracy, or the authoritativeness of the source, I guess that speaks volumes
@IncrediBILL Was the RNIB link removed from the blog or from Sphinn? If it was removed from Sphinn, please accept our apologies and feel free to re-post it.
Andy Budd in the UK has done some great work on accessibility.
Business Case for Accessibility
Design For Accessibility Presentation (slightly old now but still v. good)
Here's an RNIB link from Andy's article above (odd that went missing Bill?)
Maybe you think I went overboard but having blind friends that rely on accurate information does get me a bit riled up when I see things that aren't quite right being presented as fact.
The w3C quotes in the article are from a standards organization, not the people that actually use those standards and the tools that assist the blind, which are too totally different things.
The link I posted was directly to an RNIB link specifying the proper use of TITLE tags:
http://www.rnib.org.uk/wacblog/articles/too-much-accessibility/too-much-accessibility-title-attributes/
'I do not have access to a screenreader because good ones cost over a $1,000. And, since the blind are getting a bit too demanding for my tastes, I am sure that the blind would find most of my sites non-accessible.
Nevertheless, I like to make sites that are accessible to NORMAL, if not strange, people. This post covers a number of accessibility issues, buts fails to even mention the FireFox / IE compatibilty problem. It provides enough good info to be Sphinn worthy, however.'
'the blind are getting a bit too demanding for my tastes' - I presume you are being ironic here.
'buts fails to even mention the FireFox / IE compatibilty problem' - what do you mean by this?
There's quite a competant screen readers here: (and it's free)
http://www.screenreader.net/
Accessibility, SEO, usability and good web design all go hand-in-hand really. If you follow the W3C accessibility guidelines then you can't go that far wrong for all four of those.
"This post covers a number of accessibility issues, buts fails to even mention the FireFox / IE compatibilty problem"
This is yet completely different story...